Ant-Man Consistent Game Winning Combo

awesome deck. seems Ant-Man is just great for combo

no limit on giant strength was a mistake lol

I don't have the Rise of Red Skull, so I can't use that Hawkeye ally card, can I use the original Hawkeye ally to substitute, or is there a better option?

@Hpalmer2068It's just there because it is a cheap ally. The object of the deck is to put out as many permanents as possible as quickly as possible. With this set up you can have 6 allies out to trigger huge strength in numbers turns. I've been running a similar deck and it is a ton of fun!

I haven't played ant man, but are you sure that no resources is a good idea?

Original Hawkeye seems best - you want a cheap Avenger's Ally and he or Black Knight cost 3. You could use Maria Hill and make sure she gets an Honorary Avenger but that's a bit risky.

@zephyr100 resource cards stay in your deck, and you can't perform the combo with them clogging up the pipes

@zephyr100``@dr00 is right. The goal is to thin your deck really small and set up a game winning combo so we have no room for resources. :)

Would another Swarm Tactics be worth it?

Also, if all of you need to draw a card, and your deck and discard are both empty, the players instantly lose since an infinite amount of encounter cards would be drawn. How would you stop that?

@zephyr100 You have to do some shenanigans with Pym Particles and Swarm Tactics. Once your deck is near empty 2-3 cards and a ton in hand. You have to be careful.

When you play an event you: -Place it on the table -Generate Resources by discarding cards and pay the cost -Resolve the effects of the event. -Discard the event itself.

So you need to make sure you are spending resources so that the deck and discard never are simultaneously empty. There are two tricks to follow.

1) Sometimes you won't trigger Ant-Man's helmet when switching to Tiny Form. 2) Sometimes you will need to overpay for a card (you can do this per Rulings around the Ant-Man ally). So sometimes I'm paying with a Pym Particles or another Resize to pay the cost of a 0 cost resize.

I do a full playthrough in this video. It's a bit long but the combo wombo starts around 27:00 in.

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As for Swarm Tactics it's Max 1 per deck :(

Great deck!

I love the idea. But I can't help wondering myself if ant man is really necessary ? I mean yes giant strengh is your win condition here but a deck using 6 allies, strengh in numbers and avengers assemble (using only 5 cards among the 6 drawn) could theoritically buff anyone infinitely, wouldn't it ? Gotta work on that :P

@PorcoRouxo Avengers Assemble is unfortunately limit once per turn, so the combo needs resize, Ant-Man's helmet, and giant strength

Ok forget my last comment I just figured out that avengers assemble was maxed at 1 per round... i'm so saaaaad

@PorcoRouxoI tried that once then found out the hard way it's once per turn. You aren't alone

I want to play this with the Wasp pre-con deck.

What would be the best advice for the Quincarrier clash of the two decks? Substitute the Quincarrier in this deck for a helicarrier?

@Butcha82it only works with ant man as you need the giant strength card to boost your ATK each time you flip to giant hero form. Wasp doesn't have a similar card in her pool.

@Butcha82 I'd swap Wasp's Quincarrier even if it means the deck is no longer the precon. Antman likes the wild resources on tap for his Gauntlet.

@Butcha82sorry, missed that you said wasp precon lol. I thought you were going to swap the ant man cards for wasp cards. My bad.

Thanks for the inputs guys. I'll try him solo to get the hang of things. I've really not been used to this type of build and I really struggle to get the set up right to trigger combos.

I also generally struggle with 'flippy' characters so it's like a new puzzle to try out.

@KennedyHawkthis deck looks amazing. One question, where can I find this rule about overpaying for resize? I want to play this with my group next week but I know they will fight me over it. Thank you in advance.

@Mongo007 I would not play this deck multiplayer. You durdle around and then everyone gets to watch you win the game in one turn. One of the games flaws is that it can be a bit anti climactic and this will exaggerate that. (If your group is super up for it when forewarned that's fine but your comment implies that is not the case)

@Picklesthey are fine with this. They are just extremely picky with the rules. So as long as we follow the rules they wouldn't mind. Actually they would love to see this since it has not been done at our shop. I just couldn't find the rule in the updated rules on FFG website

Hi! something is bothering me for quite a long time : Can Ant-Man come out of the Quinjet ?

@Mckiedizgood news is yes it can bad news is you can't overpay and get any tokens, so unless you have Team Training, he'll die immediately, and can't have any tokens

@Picklesdid they remove the over paying from the rule book? i can not find it. Thank you in advance