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Natasha Chocoploff | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Viuda Negra Justicia | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Let Me Put You on Hold | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
BW Justice No Resources | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Viuda Negra Justicia y espionaje | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Viuda Negra Justicia y espionaje | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.0 |
Natasha is the real Hero | 2 | 5 | 0 | 1.0 |
Testando Live Dangerously 2.0 no TTS | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow - Justice | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1.0 |
I too like to be Home By Dawn | 4 | 3 | 4 | 1.0 |
Natasha Romanoff Justice. Only coop | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Jennifer Walters, Attorney at Law | 6 | 4 | 2 | 1.0 |
Antares Black Widow Justice | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1.0 |
Viuda / Justicia [PzvlRPO] | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow Living Dangerously | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow justice | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow justice | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2.0 |
I Too Like To Live Dangerously 2.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
I Too Like To Live Dangerously 2.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow - "Romanoff, Natasha Romanoff" | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
Black Widow - "Romanoff, Natasha Romanoff" | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.0 |
I Too Like to Live Dangerously 3.0 | 71 | 57 | 5 | 1.0 |
Black Widow against the Rise Of Red Skull campaign | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.0 |
M3t4lB0x (TLM) · 3192
EDIT Dropped: 1 Interrogation Room 1 First Aid
Added: 1 Followed 1 Spycraft
"Allow myself to introduce... myself..."
The scene in the first Avengers movie, where Black Widow is tied up and being interrogated/tortured by the KGB comes to mind when playing this deck. Widow stays undercover, thwarting the villains scheming while having the situation under control and able to turn on hero mode, even bound, and kick all sorts of butt before going back under cover and allowing her Avenger and S.H.I.E.L.D. allies to dole out punishment!
So a poll on the Facebook Marvel Champions group asking which identity can play best while never flipping over to Hero form. That got me thinking about how you could play Black Widow, keep her at the Blackjack table and still be highly successful. Covert Ops, her natural alter-ego ability and Safe House #29 are the keys here. Covert Ops is a huge card that can remove 4 threat and confuse the villain while you're still in alter-ego mode! Safe House let's you loop Counterintelligence indefinitely and she gets to draw a card every time you play it.
A strong hand size of 6 coupled with drawing a card for Counterintel... which plays for "free" once you get her Black Widow's Gauntlet's out... and then you tack on the cards from Espionage and she's flush with gambling winnings at the casino, and able to afford big cost cards like Nick Fury, Spider-Man, Daredevil, etc... get out the Helicarrier and now the cost effectiveness gets silly. You really don't even play most of her signature cards, you just pitch them as resources. Dropping a Grappling Hook doesn't hurt if you want to flip in for a turn to do some Dance of Death damage, but it's not needed. The only real benefit to keeping her signature cards out is to thin the deck a little in the late game and make sure you have at least 4 preps in play so Winter Soldier plays for free. That said, with your First Aid's you're not losing Bucky to the lost pile very often.
Once you're setup, the engine just crushes the scenario. You don't even use the Beat Cops to kill minions, you just have a free x3 threat clear every turn. Against Klaw, my Beat Cops finished at 13/10/9 threat on them respectively. Quake deals out massive damage over the course of the game and since you're so flush with cash, you can attack with allies, then drop fresh allies and attack with them too. Espionage is really stellar here and sets Widow up for some massive turns and triggers, you guessed it, while she's in alter-ego mode ;) Against Klaw I flipped to hero mode 2 times in 14 turns. Once to clear out some guards quicker (could easily have taken the longer approach with Quake), and the second was to just finish the game. Flipped to hero, Dance of Death for 6, Winter Soldier for 2, Daredevil for 2 and Quakefor 2, 12 damage, game over. :)
EDIT 2:
As I've played the deck more, I've found that there are points where the spider can and should come out of the shadows for a turn and deal some extra Dance of Death damage. The nice thing about the build is that you can really take a few turns of setup to protect yourself so when those moments arise. She can come out safely, do what she needs to do and drop back into the background. If you find your engine is setup, then your next steps are to make sure you get the Synth-Suit, Grappling Hook and a Widow's Bite in play. This will let you flip, hit for 8 (ATK + DoD), possibly take care of any Hero actions needed to clear attachments, etc and be fairly well protected for the villain's turn, knowing full well you are going to flip back and be afforded the safety the build provides. :)
Next up, Mutagen Formula!
CURRENT GAMES COMPLETED
Beat Expert Rhino with Running Interference with 0 threat left on the 1B main.
Beat Expert Klaw with Masters of Evil with 0 threat left on the 2B main.
Beat Expert Ultron with Under Attack with 3 threat left on 2B main.
Beat Expert Risky Business with Goblin Gimmicks with 3 threat left on 2B main.
Beat Expert Kang with Master of Time with 3 threat left on 4B.
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Nov 06, 2020 |
Nov 06, 2020I really like this list. |
Nov 06, 2020Thanks! Going to try and get Ultron and Risky Business Expert in tonight. |
Nov 06, 2020Very cool. Did you experiment with Foiled! at all, or was it totally unnecessary? |
Nov 07, 2020Totally unnecessary. Once you setup the Counterintelligence engine, whatever slips through your Beat Cop’s and Covert Ops handles. |
Nov 07, 2020Nice idea and concept. Just playing Klaw Expert right now. 2 secondary plans and acceleration at start is hard without Under Surveillance and unlucky draws. Maybe I need to flip those turns. Will keep trying and learn to pilot it because I love the concept and Natasha. Many thanks for posting this. |
Nov 08, 2020Really innovative and unique deck! Staying in alter ego seems so strange. I will try it tonight! |
Nov 08, 2020A very fun way to try to play the game. Played Expert Rhino and was finally able to beat him on the 4th try, and it was without flipping at all. It's fun trying to negotiate the early game to keep things under control while you get things set up, but (at least with Rhino) is a bit of an uninteresting grind once your engine is setup. |
Nov 08, 2020
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Nov 09, 2020Just beat Expert Klaw with Masters of Evil set. At the start you have 7 Threat and main schema acceleration to clean. Mulligan for Under Surveillance was needed becase those 6 Threat poins in the main schema are hard if you get too many minions at start to punish you with small schema activations where Counterintelligence doesn't help you. Game was long until I stabilized the table, Klaw got retaliation and was hurting my minions, so I had to swap to hero some times to really dish the damage end game and help with the first turns big threat preassure. Was fun and exhausting, and the deck was a blast to pilot. Espionage is awesome on this deck. Thanks por posting it |
Nov 09, 2020Glad ya had fun with it!! |
Nov 09, 2020
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Nov 09, 2020Thanks for the feedback! It's definitely a slow burn where you methodically navigate the game state and it's a very different mindset to play the deck verse normal, conventional builds. That said, with the entire core set, Goblin and RotRS under my belt in expert mode, personally, I've never felt there was inadequate damage. I already cut Interrogation Room for another Followed, but I've found the 3x First Aid to be extremely valuable. I could see dropping 1 for First Aid for a Spycraft. I wouldn't drop the Counterintelligence tho, that's the key to the deck and while 3 become superfluous once you get the deck setup, if you get a slow start, you need to find those so you can navigate the first few turns to get setup. Agent Coulson and Jessica Jones certainly aren't essential, but they are very useful in that Coulson provides strong thwarting if needed and can pull the Counterintel to get things moving, and Jessica is another 2 ATK ally in Justice. Quite a few time's I've dropped Jessica, attacked for 2, then dropped Daredevil to discard her and do 2 more on the same turn because you're flush with cash from 3 Espionage's triggering. By all means, change things up and give it a go! Nothing like experimentation! :) |
Nov 09, 2020This is absolutely monstrous! LOVE IT! THX for sharing! |
Nov 10, 2020Currently playing 2 player against Kang, Expert with Master of Time... handled Level 1 pretty easily. Knowing you're already going to sit in Alt, Obligations become much easier to handle, he never gets his attack boost... the one killer card in his arsenal tho, is Energy Blast, that can wreck you if it gets your Safe House #29, so you need to always make sure you have fodder for it. We had to pause the game, so he just went to lvl2 only 1 accelerator on the main, Kang (Iron Lad) and Kang (Immortus) in play... should be awesome! We continue tonight, but I'm pretty confident Widow will be able to handle Iron Lad quickly and go help out Hulk! :P |
Nov 13, 2020
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Nov 21, 2020I've played this build and it worked amazingly well. I am really impressed with Black Widow. I made a Protection BW build and rocked never flipping to alter-ego. Now this build allows her to never flip to hero. Amazing hero design GG FFG. |
Nov 23, 2020I was a bit skeptical. I tested against Think Expert Solo and flipped to Hero only once, which was at the very end to KO with Dance of Death (and had 0 threat on the main scheme to boot). This was super fun to play and totally blew my mind. Thanks for sharing! |
Nov 23, 2020sorry that was supposed to say *Rhino Expert Solo (stupid auto-correct) |
Dec 02, 2020The exact same build works extremely well with Captain Marvel, I'd hazard even better because you can set up an Energy Channel for a blast of 10 damage for 0 cards on that turn. Plus she effectively has a 7 card hand before supports/upgrades. Tested it against Kang Expert with Master of Time! |
Dec 02, 2020Sweet, I’ll have to try that out! It seems like the trade off is having the guaranteed counterintelligence/covert ops lock for some much heavier damage. :) |
Dec 21, 2020Just played a version of this with -1Counterintelligence/Under Surveillance against Zola in multiplayer. Insanely effective—thanks for the upload! |
Dec 22, 2020
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Feb 08, 2021Please could you like my decks since I liked yours. |
Mar 10, 2021I've just published a Ms Marvel deck 'inspired' by this one at marvelcdb.com It isn't as good as this deck, but I enjoyed building it. Many thanks |
Mar 26, 2021I'm just getting into Marvel Champions and I have had so much fun with this deck. Thanks! |
Feb 09, 2022It looks like Meditation would be awesome for this deck. |
Feb 10, 2022
It is! I was actually going to post an updated 3.0 version, but honestly the only thing you really do is add 3 Meditation. It holds up just as good now as it did then. Maybe drop the Followed for a Chance Encounter, but that's a preference choice. :) |
Feb 13, 2022
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Feb 16, 2022Nothing, just add it. It's run really well with them added and no drop. If you were to drop, I would probably drop Jessica Jones, Interrogation Room and the Helicarrier |
Dec 10, 2022Hey ! Out of curiosity is there any new card who'd be good with this deck since feb ? |
Sep 08, 2023
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This is WILD dude